I think manny stewart is just trying to make naz a better fighter but i heard many times that naz doesnt want to listen.He wants to do it his way.I also think he has a lot of flows as a fighter, its true he is very hard to hit but those guys that tries to hit him are not even a great fighter.Im a fan of naz since he was about 10 fights.When he fought kelly, he was struggling.He won the fight, but if you really look at the talent level of kelly.He was not even great.And your right he was flat footed in this fight maybe because i heard a lot of rumors that he went lazy.He doesnt want to practice, he doesnt want to listen to manny.He wants to do it on his own, so missed up.I think naz destroyed his great talent because of his ego and laziness. This is the one time it was not Manny's fault. I hate hearing people say he had a weak chin he was undefeated for a long time some one had to hit him on the chin before he got knocked out. ![]() Naz was never that good of a fighter to begin with. I am not a big Manny fan but he did not ruin Naz. Naz a good fighter that Manny tried fixing, but that's about it. Kelly was coming off wars with Troy Dorsey that helped shorten his career and make Naz look a little more special than he actually was. Naz looked great against Kelly because Kelly was shot and still managed to put together a good show with Naz. There's a huge difference in beating a marque fighter who was well past his prime like Kevin Kelly as opposed to Barrera. A fighter can't fake that or use smoke and mirrors. The straighter shots prevailed and the overall ring generalship prevailed. Naz was a good fighter, he had a gimmick (being arrogant, long ring entrances etc,etc,etc) but everyone who watched the Barrera fight saw how Naz was exposed as a good fighter trying to be a great fighter. The whole getting punched and Naz's head looking like it was on a swivel, well, that was all Naz. I think that the one thing that you can say is that Manny had Naz sit down on his punches more which may have taken away from his overall ability to move around the ring and avoid certain shots. A fighter can only hide a fragile chin so long before it is exposed, example Roy Jones, Zab Judah, Julian Jackson and Amir Khan. Doc, Manny didn't ruin Naz, Naz ruined Naz. He just couldn't be bothered anymore, especially as the press were hounding him about the loss. I doubt Manny had much influence on Naz, I can't see Naseem paying too much attention to anybody, we are talking about a guy that paid $25,000 to fly his barber to Las Vegas for a last minute 'trim' of his haircut! I think once Barrera beat him. The entance into the ring by way of 'flying carpet' pays testamony to that. His confidence in himself and his own ability was mind blowing. ![]() I think Naz was overcome by his alter-ego. As Doc correctly stated, Naz had a God given talent, he had moves that you couldn't learn in any gym - he just had them naturally. Every now and again, boxers come along that were just born to become ring legends - Naz was one such guy.
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